Chasing after those “Coastal Elites” like a crack adict seeking his fix

Over in the post the I will not let die, someone calling himself “Bragan” decided to demonstrate just how separated “liberals” are from logic:

Greg, nobody is trying to deprive you of your hunting rifle. Hell, I don’t even want to deprive you of your hand gun if you want to carry it around with you so you can fend off the bad guys like Dirty Harry. But what I would like to do is make it more difficult for the bad guys — and let’s recognize that emotion can very often make a normally “good” person do very bad things — to possess a hand gun, through licensing, registration and greater penalties for illegal possession (and certainly there is no legitimate justificaiton for owning an assault rifle).

I responded:

Bragan,

Anyone trying to restrict ammunition sales, or make it more expensive, is attacking my ability to hunt. Since my hunting rifle is an “assault rifle”, your desire to ban those is most certainly a desire to deprive me of my hunting rifle.

But, of course, the core of the matter is this:

But what I would like to do is make it more difficult for the bad guys — and let’s recognize that emotion can very often make a normally “good” person do very bad things — to possess a hand gun, through licensing, registration and greater penalties for illegal possession

The only rational way to read that is that you want to disarm everyone, since even “normally good people” can be “bad guys”, and you want to keep the “bad guys” away from guns.

Note that what you don’t want to do is actually punish the bad guys when they commit a crime. Nope, you want to engage in “prior restraint”, and keep “them” from having weapons in the first place. (After all, once they do commit a crime, then they’re “poor, misunderstood people who aren’t responsible for what they’ve done.” Yes, I’m extrapolating that part from other fruitcakes in your left-wing coalition. Deal.)

IOW, no sale.

More fun with the “Coastal Elites”

My last post involved making fun of an idiotic comment on Megan McArdle’s post on “Coastal Elite Privilege. I wrote a comment there that I want to repeat here, because it nailed just the epitome of cluelessness.

“Well, what?” wrote:

And saying that “your right to own a gun won’t matter when you don’t have enough money to feed your children” isn’t condescending. It’s just true. Starving populations are singularly unconcerned with matters of civil justice.

Not only is it condescending, it’s false, and stupid.

My right to own a gun, and hunt, may very well be the difference between my children starving, and me being able to feed them food I’ve hunted.

My right to own a gun, and shoot anyone who tries to rob me, may be the difference between my food /rent money being stolen, and not.

One of the actions Governor Palin took was to extend the hunting season for returning members of the the Alaska National Guard, so they could get in more hunting time to feed their children.

You really do have to be stupid to be a “liberal”, don’t you?

Mocking the “Coastal Elite”

My last post was about a great comment on Megan McArdle’s post on “Coastal Elite Privilege.

I mentioned that she got a large number of comments from clueless “liberals” that prove her point. I’m going to make fun of this one, by a twit who calls himself “rush”.

BUT — that’s no excuse for them to continually vote against their interests. The politics of the coastal states is in line with the needs of working people in this country.

Um, no. “The politics of the coastal states” is in line with the desires of the coastal states residents. You have chosen to “give” the “working people in this country” things that you think they should want, and that you have decided should be more valuable to them than what you’re demanding from them.

They disagree. If they didn’t disagree, they wouldn’t be voting Republican. So, who’s the idiot? Them, for disagreeing with you? Or you, for being unwilling to change your offer to one they’d be willing to accept?

I understand their pain and can relate to it. Elitism in any form is bad and we need to unite as a nation.

Blah, blah, blah. Whine, bullshit, pile of crap. If you actually understood their pain, you wouldn’t go out of your way to inflict it.

But we can’t constantly back down from what we believe.

They (the “Kansas” / “flyover country” voters), can and should back down from what they believe, because they’re just dumb hicks who don’t understand the world around them. We coastal elites, with our superior understanding of the world, OTOH, we can’t back down.

Sorry, but gun control and abortion rights are important issues.

and therefore you dumb hicks need to give up your opinions on them and accept ours.

Not because we are elitists but because we see street violence and teenage mothers struggling around us. That’s a fact.

Two thoughts here. First: Wow, you’ve got all that gun control and abortion, yet still you have “street violence and teenage mothers.” Could it possibly be that gun control and abortion aren’t the answer? Naw. You can’t actually think about the issues, that’s a violation of your religion.

Gee, could it possibly be that Federalism would allow you to ban guns in your areas, while leaving our guns alone? Yes, it might have. Too bad you guys decided that the way to advance your unpopular agenda was to use left-wing “Justices” to override and rewrite the Constitution, and destroy that whole Federalism thing.

Second: Notice how the “elitists” “see” these things that the rest of us are just too blind to see, or too stupid to understand. Isn’t it kind of them to share their “wisdom” with us?

I am soooooo irritated this morning. The cynical politics of the right and how it might work again. I don’t have an answer to it. The pig lipstick comment taken out of context.
WAKE UP AMERICA.

Hey “rush”, you might want to check out this post by Megan on willful blindness, esp. if you really do think Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comment is merely being “taken out of context.” Because there’s no way Obama really is that dumb.

But if he is that dumb, then there’s no way he has the “judgment” to be President.

And then you might try “waking up” yourself. The non-coastal non-elites disagree with you, as is their right. Your total unwillingness to acknowledge their right to disagree with you is what marks you as an elitist prick. The contempt inherent in your assumption of superiority is why your side keeps losing election. The only thing keeping you in the game is the fact that the MSM is so far in the tank for you that they’ve had to grow gills to survive. But the internet is destroying the value of that.

You are a sad, pathetic joke. I’m soooooo happy that you’re on the other team.

Coastal Elite Privilege

Megan McArdle has an amusing post up where she points this out:

Over the last week, I’ve been hearing a lot of things like this:

Some of it, of course, is driven by cultural and religious conflict: fundamentalist Christians are sincerely dismayed by Roe v. Wade and evolution in the curriculum. What struck me as I watched the convention speeches, however, is how much of the anger on the right is based not on the claim that Democrats have done bad things, but on the perception — generally based on no evidence whatsoever — that Democrats look down their noses at regular people.

I’m surprised–though I shouldn’t be, of course–that any number of liberals who are (presumably) comfortable with concepts like unconscious discrimination and privilege when it comes to race, have not even stopped to consider that the same sort of thing might be operating here.

She then proceeds to get a large number of comments from clueless “liberals” that prove her point.

One non-clueless individual, Rob Lyman, made a point I wish to immortalize:

To put it in a nutshell, I don’t see how abortion is a fundamental constitutional right which must be defended at all costs when Democrats bring it up, but a stupid footling distraction from the important issues when Republicans bring it up.

Yes.